Re: [MV] M35A2 Multifuel Runaway Concern.

From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Thu Mar 17 2005 - 11:34:04 PST


While bad things can happen with heavy trucks, diesel runaway, and split
rims blowing apart, the fact remains that most trucks do not runaway and
most split rims do not blow apart.

I live in the country where most of the older farm trucks have split
rims and virtually every tractor around here (except for my old ones)
are diesels. I have never known of someone to lose a diesel due to
runaway, but I am sure it has happened.

When I ran a stick into my M51 dump tire, I thought oh crap, I wonder if
the tire guys down the road will fix this split rim wheel/tire.

I brought it to them and asked them if they could fix it, the answer
was, we'll see since we don't know how big the hole it! OK, can you
give me an idea of cost. $20 plus a boot patch if required. It was
$24.00 with the patch and it was done in a hour. I later asked them if
they had any problems mounting tires on split rims. And they said no,
they do it all of the time.

They told me that they only blow if the wheel isn't put together
correctly or if the components are bent which means the ring parts won't
seat properly. They showed me the cage they use to inflate the tires.
They said they haven't blown a ring off in years, since they know what
they are doing.

On the otherhand, when I lived in Cincinnati (urban area) the huge local
commerical tire guys would not mount split rims. They had a contractor
come on site to do the mounting in the parking lot??? It was something
like $60/wheel or so and a couple day wait. What a difference.

If you sense a runaway situation, I would recommend that you throw the
trans into high gear, hit the brakes and release the clutch. That
should stall the engine. I would definitely not recommend opening the
hood and attempting to cover the intake. My life is worth more than that.

However, I would be more concerned about running over something in an
urban setting rather than worrying about a runaway or a tire ring
blowing off.

Dave

avarvarigo@aol.com wrote:
> Hi all. This might be a boring and a bit long note but I just wanted to
> make sure that I understand correctly about the dangers of the above
> happening on a Deuce.
> To start, I have a Deuce multifuel non Turbo that has been running fine
> and it gets started every couple of weeks just to run it a bit even if I
> don't have the time to take it out on a short ride.
> Usually I do take it out even if around the neighborhood to let things
> circulate some.
> My Deuce is also maintained well, (I believe), with work done
> professionally, if needed.
> Originally when I got it I was, (as still am) very happy to have it,
> then some guys came about, sending
> notes on this list about the dangers of the split ring wheels and cases
> of people that really got hurt.
> At that point some fear / concern came over me and I asked my silly
> questions that were answered by
> you all, putting me at ease about the way they work.
> Well, I read my books, looked at my pictures and somewhere along the
> line the engine runaway came up and the recommendation of getting the
> h... out of the truck and run away, was suggested by the service
> manuals if it happens. Kinda tough to do when you live in an Urban
> environment, without somebody or something getting hurt.
> Also some notes and written material, again came to light with guys
> blocking the intake of the air filter housing and the hole in the back
> to suffocate the engine.
> Well, again since all ok here, I put it in the back of my head.
> However there were some recent notes with guys talking about the same
> thing again and making it sound quite scary and maybe something that
> could happen to anyone at anytime???
> What's the chances of a good running truck having the above happen?
> I mean, who has enough time, God forbid, something like this was to
> happen, to get out in the middle of a street, pop the hood open, get
> tools to loosen the mushroom, plug the holes and still be alive and dry.
> Any suggestions, thoughts or am I losing it?
> I definitely don't want to let my truck go, but the idea of me or anyone
> around me getting hurt is not my idea of fun.
>
> Thank you all,
> Tony.
>
>
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