Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked up

From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Sat May 07 2005 - 19:23:29 PDT


I have an old motorcycle that has went in to a wobble on me twice. I parked
it about twenty years ago and haven't started it since.

Anyone care to guess what the problem may have been? Its a 1973 Motoguzzi
Eldarado 850.

Sonny

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked up

> Yeah, I'd have to agree with Bobby Joe on this one. I'm pretty sure what
> you are describing is a 'speed wobble.'
>
> Typically, a steering stabilizer will only reduce 'road wandering' not so
> much as speed wobble. In fact, a speed wobble will destroy a steering
> stabilizer in no time flat.
>
> I'm thinking you've got a bad tie rod, ball joint, etc.
>
> Kent
>
>>
>> From: "Bobby Joe Pendleton" <bjpendleton@charter.net>
>> Date: Sat May 7, 8:32 PM
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked up
>>
>> a steering stabilizer may help, but it also may be just hiding a real
>> problem. The first thing I would do is check all movable joints in the
>> front
>> suspension and steering.
>>
>> BjP
>> Southern by the grace of God
>> "I...Shall Remain Confederate"
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Brunner" <cjbrunner@optonline.net>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, 07 May, 2005 20:22
>> Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked up
>>
>>
>> > In the Jeep world I used to belong to before I got into military
>> > surplus
>> > we experienced that same Phenomenon and called it Death Wobble. In a
>> > Jeep it was caused by looseness in the front end, the axle would move a
>> > little bit left to right and the steering would stay static causing the
>> > wheels to turn a little left to right. This natural motion would build
>> > up a harmonic and set the whole thing off into a giant wiggle that had
>> > a
>> > really high pucker factor in the front seat. Although I know our
>> > trucks
>> > are a lot different, I would check out all the hardware around the
>> > front
>> > end to see if the diff is moving at all side to side that would
>> > contribute to this problem.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > Jeff Gatton wrote:
>> >
>> > >As for my shaking....I went for a test drive this
>> > >morning and paid a little closer attention to the
>> > >symptoms. The front end actually started shaking. I
>> > >was able to hit the brakes and stop it before it got
>> > >too bad. I came home and inspected and realized that
>> > >my front steering stabilizer was completely missing.
>> > >I bet adding one of them will stop the front end from
>> > >shaking uncontrollably.
>> > >
>> > >Jeff
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >--- Jeff Gatton <jdgatton@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>I finally got all the swollen glow plugs out. I
>> > >>only
>> > >>had to pull 3 of them out of the injector holes.
>> > >>The
>> > >>pulling tool and air ratchet only worked on 1. Good
>> > >>ol' vise grips and some wiggling/pulling/cussing
>> > >>worked on the rest.
>> > >>
>> > >>I bought the "super-duper" glow plugs from Kennedy
>> > >>Diesel. They are actually Wellman 6A843G050. The
>> > >>tab
>> > >>broke off one of them (cheap-ass spot weld) when I
>> > >>was
>> > >>grinding it down to fit my connector.
>> > >>
>> > >>The swollen ones I removed were Wellman 6A843G070.
>> > >>
>> > >>After new glow plugs and a new glow plug relay, I'm
>> > >>back on the road.
>> > >>
>> > >>Another funny thing happened....I was doing about
>> > >>35mph and hit a dip in the road, all of the sudden,
>> > >>the whole truck was shaking and jumping. I think
>> > >>the
>> > >>rear brakes/axle locked up on me. I stopped and got
>> > >>out to see if my axle had fallen off or something,
>> > >>and
>> > >>everything looked good....it drove fine after that.
>> > >>I
>> > >>did smell some hot brakes/tires. I didn't try
>> > >>hitting
>> > >>any dips in the road at that speed yet though. Has
>> > >>anyone had a similar experience? I was thinking
>> > >>that
>> > >>the rear proportion valve might have kicked in when
>> > >>I
>> > >>hit that dip and locked up the breaks...
>> > >>
>> > >>I just started driving this truck, so I'm still
>> > >>learning his quirks.
>> > >>
>> > >>Jeff Gatton
>> > >>Saucier, MS
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
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