Re: [MV] To any and all concerned MVPA members and future members

From: bruce C. Beattie (bruce@eecs.berkeley.edu)
Date: Mon Jun 20 2005 - 13:02:54 PDT


Dave,
    I think you hit the nail on the head. I don't think I could have
explained it any better.
I have always been favorably impressed with Jim. At the same time, I was
probably one of the
kids who wanted to throw stuff at the smart kid.
Bruce MVPA 23824

MV wrote:

>
> I have been either listening to or making comments on this list for
> probably 5 years or so now. There is a tremendous wealth on knowledge
> on this list - no doubt. And I really appreciate everyone participation.
>
> It has been quite a while since I have seen Jim Gilmore comment on
> something on this list, however when he did I found that he was
> usually correct.
>
> Jim did not mince words when he knew he was was correct. If he knew
> that I was wrong, or anyone else for that matter, he told us so.
> Usually when he corrected a statement, he seemed to have 3 references
> that he could pull out if needed, to back up his statement. I started
> to think of the guy as a walking reference book and I really
> appreciated his involvement in the list.
>
> But in a board room setting where a number of other fairly assertive
> individuals might gather, I can see Jim twisting a few nerves telling
> someone else that what they were saying was simply untrue, and then
> being able to back it up factual information, all within 10 seconds of
> the person finishing their statement. That kind of quick to "respond
> and correct" behavior can be seen as being agressive and intimidating
> by many. It certainly sounds like more than one person on the board
> is not happy with him, which is unfortunate since I would guess that
> whatever Jim said and did was probably correct 99% of the time.
>
> Jim reminded me of the really smart kid that was always in your grade
> school class. That was the kid who would raise their hand 10 seconds
> before everyone else to answer a question posed by the teacher - and
> they always had the correct answer. By the end of the semester,
> everyone in the class wanted to throw their books at that guy! But
> they were always correct, even so.
>
> That said, I think that perhaps the other board member need to grow
> some thicker skin and appreciate Jim for what he has to bring to the
> table. My guess is that some of the folks on the board are simply not
> very tolerant.
>
> I can't recall Jim ever saying anything on this list that I would
> consider "inapproprate".
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> Tactical Truck Info wrote:
>
>>> They have posted that I am not allowed to run because of "conduct
>>> unbecoming a MVPA Director".
>>>
>>> The President of the MVPA has stated on a public forum that I am guilty
>>> of "......inappropriate comments and behavior...." that I have "....
>>> acted in a manner unbecoming a director on more than one occasion...."
>>> and that "..... it was in the best interest of the MVPA to not place
>>> his
>>> name on the ballot....."
>>>
>>
>>
>> First, I am not the member who complained and Mr Gilmore may be being
>> railroaded but I have to agree with the MVPA's position here. He has
>> said
>> things on this list which I feel are inappropriate for an MVPA
>> Director. I for
>> one won't miss him. I guess I'm sorry I won't get to vote against
>> him. Jeff Symanski
>> MVPA #10 thousand and some change.
>>
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