Re: Undercoating for wheel wells, etc.

From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Sun Oct 09 2005 - 12:47:32 PDT


Keeping metal from rusting can be viewed two different ways (perhaps
more). You need to keep water and oxygen from the surface of the metal.
  When both of those things are present steel and iron will rust.

If you have rocks and dirt hitting the surface also, the coating has to
have some type of surface that will resist abrasion. The heavy mastic
type coating, like roof cement or roof coating can do that. The problem
comes in if water and air get behind that stuff. Then that type of
coating can cause rust to actually accelerate. Wheel wheels is a tough
problem. That's why a lot of car makers now use plastic to line wheel
wheels.

If you don't have an abrasive environment like the wheel well locations,
the best thing to use is a rust preventative coating that is similar to
the stuff that Ziebart uses. They have an inner panel grade that is
pretty runny, and a slightly heavier grade that works well on exterior
underbody stuff. The military uses at least two grades also on their
trucks also.

Daubert Chemical makes a huge number of different rustproofing compounds
(including a number of military grade compounds) and but I have had some
difficulty getting a decent supplier to sell me the stuff in smaller
quantities. (Like 5 gallon cans) JC Whitney sells some decent stuff that
I believe is Daubert compounds put into smaller bottles that fit their
applicator tool set.

Compared to auto paint the stuff is pretty cheap and it works. Highly
recommended if you are trying to prevent rust.

Dave

Everette wrote:
> There used to be shops that could spray undercoating on as an
> aftermarket application, they used a large spray gun much like a pant
> sprayer, drew coating out of drum and sprayed on underside of vehicle.
> Nasty job to do, have to wear disposable coveralls, hood over head with
> outside air source.
>
> Give this some thought when applying have coatings as "bed liners" etc.
> I spent many years in the fertilizer business where rust and corrosion
> is a tremendous problem. We found that if we put a heavy coat of
> undercoating or similar materials on truck beds, wheelwells etc.it
> greatly magnified the rust problem, coating would get small hole in it,
> let water in and the metal would rust away behind the coating. Be aware
> that the use of these trucks far exceeds what an individual would
> subject the vehicle to in most cases.
>
> Slip in bedliners will wear paint off truck beds also exposing bare
> metal to rust.
>
> We had best results with the heavy flexible plastic / rubber mats that
> lay flat in floor, -IF- once in a while we would take them out and wash
> trash out of truck bed.
>
> On the same thread we quit specifying heavy duty frames on trucks if
> heavy frame was made by bolding or riveting two pieces of frame metal
> together for rust would get between them and force them apart breaking
> them.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" <rertman@ix.netcom.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Undercoating for wheel wells, etc.
>
>
>> Stu and gang:
>>
>> IMHO, the best stuff is that spray-on liner for pickup truck beds. I had
>> mine done at
>> a local Line-X shop. I had them leave out the non-skid stuff and the
>> finished product
>> looks great and protects like crazy. It's washable, too.
>>
>> My 2 cents worth.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stu" <stuinnh@mvnut.us>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: 07 October, 2005 09:11
>> Subject: [MV] Undercoating for wheel wells, etc.
>>
>>
>> Hi all!
>> What type of brushed on undercoating do I see on CUCV's? It looks like
>> roofing cement? I need to do redo mine.
>> Thanx as always for everyone's help again.
>>
>> "Stu"
>> Southern NH, USA
>> "Live Free Or Die"
>>
>> MVPA #14790
>> 1967 M151A1 Jeep 1964 M416 Trailer
>> 1985 M1008 CUCV Pickup
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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