From: Patrick Jankowiak (recycler@swbell.net)
Date: Tue Feb 14 2006 - 17:54:16 PST
Right about the power.. I have seldom drawn more than 2.5KW with everything
on and transmitting but with a new a/c being added, will increase this to
maybe 4-5KW. I usually spec gensets for twice the maximum power, so the
speed regulation does not suffer.. say were I to key the 'large' radio just
when the a/c kicks on. instant increase of 2.4KW not including surge from
a/c. I'm sure this can be worked out.
MV wrote:
> So you would need about 13 hp for 10KW but with losses - gear drag,
> electrical inefficiencies etc - you would need closer to 17 or 18 hp
> which is still no more than a slightly fast idle for a multi-fuel.
>
> Chances are that even if you have an airconditioner running, you won't
> be drawing much more than 4-5 KW continuously, unless you are running an
> air compressor or some other heavy tool.
>
> My M51 dump with the R6602 continental engine has a PTO hydraulic pump
> to raise the bed and even with a full load in the bed of more than 10
> tons, the engine can raise that bed easily even at idle, without
> stalling. It takes a while, so I normally kick up the thottle to get
> more oil flow so I don't have to wait so long.
>
> Those farm PTO generators are usually setup for a 1 3/8" 6 spline drive
> shaft that runs at 540 rpm so you could probably have a short custom
> drive shaft made up to tie into a PTO on the transmission. I think you
> can still buy new commercial PTOs that hang right on the transmission of
> an M35 for a couple hundred bucks. They usually have a cable mechanism
> you can run into the cab to engage and disengage them. I have one such
> unit on a 2 1/2 ton ex-utility truck. It has a hydraulic pump which was
> used to run a boom crane. As an alternative to mounting the generator
> under the truck, I guess you could also mount the generator above the
> truck frame and run a couple of V-belts to the PTO shaft if you wanted
> to. Similar to what they used to do on old civy wreckers with roller
> chain drives to bed mounted PTO winches. But a V belt drive would be
> lot quieter and require less maintenance than a chain drive.
>
> Dave
>
> Arthur Bloom wrote:
>
>> Yes, I just did the calculations. 1 kilowatt = 1.3 hp No big deal for
>> a multi-fuel.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MV" <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
>> To: "Arthur Bloom" <m35prod@optonline.net>
>> Cc: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MV] M35, what next for longer bed?
>>
>>
>> | Yes, but not much more. One or two clicks on the throttle control
>> | should do it.
>> |
>> | I've got a 55 hp Hercules farm engine I use to power a 10 KW generator
>> | when the lights go out. It loafs along at 1200 rpm and has power to
>> | spare running the 10 KW generator at capacity. It burns 2 gph on gas.
>> | A big multifuel should not have to break 1000 rpm to get a lot more
>> than
>> | 10 KW.
>> |
>> | Dave
>> |
>> | Arthur Bloom wrote:
>> | > It's gonna need to do more than idle to make 10 kW.
>> | >
>> | > apb
>> | >
>> | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "MV" <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
>> | > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:33 AM
>> | > Subject: Re: [MV] M35, what next for longer bed?
>> | >
>> | >
>> | > |
>> | > | Instead of going with a longer bed to fit a diesel generator in
>> front,
>> | > | why not go with a PTO driven generator and just run the truck
>> engine
>> | > | when you need the power. 10-15 KW generators with low speed 540
>> rpm
>> | > | inputs are commonly used as PTO devices from farm tractors. You
>> could
>> | > | mount the generator underneath the truck, so it would be out of
>> view and
>> | > | put the switchgear up above. From previous posts I believe that
>> the
>> | > | multifuel engines draw about 1 gph when idling.
>> | > |
>> | > | Anyway, this is just an idea that came to mind.
>> | > |
>> | > | Dave
>> | > |
>> | > | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> | > |
>> | > | Patrick Jankowiak wrote:
>> | > | > Might be an option Be good to see a pic. of what one looks like.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > I like that Cougar vehicle! I'd trade all my stuff for that
>> bad boy.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > I see the longbed M35, an M34 it's called? I've been told
>> about an M36
>> | > | > as well.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > Cliff S wrote:
>> | > | >
>> | > | >> They have a deuce out here in Iraq with a longbed on
>> it..........check
>> | > | >> out the msn space I have......is that still an option? M35
>> that is?
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >> SSGT SMITH CN, USMC
>> | > | >> 3/7 ISF
>> | > | >> 3RD BN, 6TH MAR
>> | > | >> UNIT 73290 (MITT)
>> | > | >> FPO AE 09509-3290
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >> M880, M274A5, 6K GenSet
>> | > | >> http://tired-iron.mounet.com/cliff/
>> | > | >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/mtnbikinssgt/
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >> From: Stephen L Dussetschleger <dussetschleger@juno.com>
>> | > | >> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> | > | >> Subject: Re: [MV] M35, what next for longer bed?
>> | > | >> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:27:42 -0600
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >> What about getting a long bed 5 ton ? Gotta old gasser that
>> needs a
>> | > | >> home. $1,500 & its a yours. HEY, if your out east it could
>> go on APB's
>> | > | >> truck goin from Denver to East.
>> | > | >> Steve (Still trying to fill up that truck)
>> | > | >>
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