Re: M35, what next for longer bed?

From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Tue Feb 14 2006 - 09:08:29 PST

So you would need about 13 hp for 10KW but with losses - gear drag,
electrical inefficiencies etc - you would need closer to 17 or 18 hp
which is still no more than a slightly fast idle for a multi-fuel.

Chances are that even if you have an airconditioner running, you won't
be drawing much more than 4-5 KW continuously, unless you are running an
air compressor or some other heavy tool.

My M51 dump with the R6602 continental engine has a PTO hydraulic pump
to raise the bed and even with a full load in the bed of more than 10
tons, the engine can raise that bed easily even at idle, without
stalling. It takes a while, so I normally kick up the thottle to get
more oil flow so I don't have to wait so long.

Those farm PTO generators are usually setup for a 1 3/8" 6 spline drive
shaft that runs at 540 rpm so you could probably have a short custom
drive shaft made up to tie into a PTO on the transmission. I think you
can still buy new commercial PTOs that hang right on the transmission of
an M35 for a couple hundred bucks. They usually have a cable mechanism
you can run into the cab to engage and disengage them. I have one such
unit on a 2 1/2 ton ex-utility truck. It has a hydraulic pump which was
used to run a boom crane. As an alternative to mounting the generator
under the truck, I guess you could also mount the generator above the
truck frame and run a couple of V-belts to the PTO shaft if you wanted
to. Similar to what they used to do on old civy wreckers with roller
chain drives to bed mounted PTO winches. But a V belt drive would be
lot quieter and require less maintenance than a chain drive.

Dave

Arthur Bloom wrote:
> Yes, I just did the calculations. 1 kilowatt = 1.3 hp No big deal for a
> multi-fuel.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MV" <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
> To: "Arthur Bloom" <m35prod@optonline.net>
> Cc: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] M35, what next for longer bed?
>
>
> | Yes, but not much more. One or two clicks on the throttle control
> | should do it.
> |
> | I've got a 55 hp Hercules farm engine I use to power a 10 KW generator
> | when the lights go out. It loafs along at 1200 rpm and has power to
> | spare running the 10 KW generator at capacity. It burns 2 gph on gas.
> | A big multifuel should not have to break 1000 rpm to get a lot more than
> | 10 KW.
> |
> | Dave
> |
> | Arthur Bloom wrote:
> | > It's gonna need to do more than idle to make 10 kW.
> | >
> | > apb
> | >
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "MV" <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
> | > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:33 AM
> | > Subject: Re: [MV] M35, what next for longer bed?
> | >
> | >
> | > |
> | > | Instead of going with a longer bed to fit a diesel generator in front,
> | > | why not go with a PTO driven generator and just run the truck engine
> | > | when you need the power. 10-15 KW generators with low speed 540 rpm
> | > | inputs are commonly used as PTO devices from farm tractors. You could
> | > | mount the generator underneath the truck, so it would be out of view
> and
> | > | put the switchgear up above. From previous posts I believe that the
> | > | multifuel engines draw about 1 gph when idling.
> | > |
> | > | Anyway, this is just an idea that came to mind.
> | > |
> | > | Dave
> | > |
> | > | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> | > |
> | > | Patrick Jankowiak wrote:
> | > | > Might be an option Be good to see a pic. of what one looks like.
> | > | >
> | > | > I like that Cougar vehicle! I'd trade all my stuff for that bad boy.
> | > | >
> | > | > I see the longbed M35, an M34 it's called? I've been told about an
> M36
> | > | > as well.
> | > | >
> | > | > Cliff S wrote:
> | > | >
> | > | >> They have a deuce out here in Iraq with a longbed on
> it..........check
> | > | >> out the msn space I have......is that still an option? M35 that
> is?
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >> SSGT SMITH CN, USMC
> | > | >> 3/7 ISF
> | > | >> 3RD BN, 6TH MAR
> | > | >> UNIT 73290 (MITT)
> | > | >> FPO AE 09509-3290
> | > | >>
> | > | >> M880, M274A5, 6K GenSet
> | > | >> http://tired-iron.mounet.com/cliff/
> | > | >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/mtnbikinssgt/
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >> From: Stephen L Dussetschleger <dussetschleger@juno.com>
> | > | >> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> | > | >> Subject: Re: [MV] M35, what next for longer bed?
> | > | >> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:27:42 -0600
> | > | >>
> | > | >> What about getting a long bed 5 ton ? Gotta old gasser that needs
> a
> | > | >> home. $1,500 & its a yours. HEY, if your out east it could go on
> APB's
> | > | >> truck goin from Denver to East.
> | > | >> Steve (Still trying to fill up that truck)
> | > | >>
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