RE: NOS M65 breech assembly or diagram needed

From: Hutterer, John (MPAU) (john.hutterer@smiths-medical.com)
Date: Mon Mar 13 2006 - 10:49:58 PST


Patrick,

I once was NCOIC at a range where we were firing the practice rounds
from a LAW rocket launcher. The practice rounds came in a wooden case
that held about 24 of them. They were about an inch in diameter, and
around 12 to 14 inches long. It's only been about 25 years, so I could
be a little off on the numbers. The launchers were modified by the local
MATES shop on post. A used launcher was modified by having an insert
installed, which sleeved the bore down to a size that better fit the
practice round. The launcher was also modified with an adapter kit that
allowed the igniter tail from the practice round to be used. The
practice round had a hollow plastic tail that was about 6 inches long.
The shooter would close up the launcher, slide a practice round into the
rear of the tube, route the tail to the modified actuator, and lock
everything in place. When the launcher was extended, it would cock the
actuator. The tail on the practice round had a primer, much like a
shotgun shell primer, that was struck with a firing pin when the trigger
on the launcher was pressed. The tail was full of powder and would
rapidly burn down to the rear of the rocket, igniting it and sending it
down range. They weren't super accurate, but would give you a feel for
how the launcher worked.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick Jankowiak
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:12 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] NOS M65 breech assembly or diagram needed

I was shown a picture of what I was told was a 'practice' round once. it
was a metal rocket about 1" diameter and had fixed fins at the base. I
don't remember where I saw that. I remember them telling me the real
thing was a folded-fin fattie that filled up the tube though.

PJ

Jay Travis wrote:

> I'm no expert on them myself, so you may well be completely right. I
do
> remember they did have a couple of different versions, including a
training
> version, so some of them might have had fixed fins too. It's all
academic
> anyway, as trying to put one back into service with ANY kind of
warhead
> would be an e-ticket ride straight to Club Fed via the BATF boys.
They'd
> probably get annoyed even using it to shoot bottle rockets, if they
caught
> you doing it. Model rockets would be questionable, I guess. Didn't
they
> recently come out stating that they changed their minds about trying
to
> regulate over-the-counter hobby rocket engines? Still have to be
careful,
> though- you'll put an eye out! ;-)
>
>
>
>>[Original Message]
>>From: dgrev <dgrev@iinet.net.au>
>>To: <dagobert@ix.netcom.com>
>>Cc: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>Date: 3/11/2006 8:52:28 AM
>>Subject: Re: [MV] NOS M65 breech assembly or diagram needed
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>
>>>Are you sure of that?
>>
>>No, just going on what I have been told.
>>
>>
>>>The outside difference would be the folding fins
>>>that pop out after launch,
>>
>>We may be talking about different models of LAWS.
>>
>>
>>>but the explosive itself would be some form of a
>>>shaped charge with a cone cover, to penetrate armor with a plasma
center
>>>when it hits. I would think a regular grenage, rifle or otherwise,
>
> would
>
>>>just make a loud noise and a dent in the side of anything armor.
>>
>>Agreed, you will note I did say "modifications internally".
>>
>>
>>>(Although
>>>granted, the LAWS system is supposedly ineffective against modern
armor
>
> and
>
>>>wouldn't do much good unless you were being attacked by something
like a
>>>T-34) Now, I could well be wrong, and if so, please enlighten me,
but
>>>that's what I thought was the case with them.
>>
>>I am going on something I was told over 5 years ago by an ammo
>>collector - which I am not.
>>
>>Regards
>>Doug
>
>
>
>
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