Military Vehicles, June 1997,: Re: [MV] Military Vehicle Preservation

Re: [MV] Military Vehicle Preservation

jhlang (jhlang@Sourcecom.Com)
Wed, 18 Jun 97 17:25:43 -0800


I can see what your intent is, but I think it is a tad much. I
actually have a garage. It is a small single car garage built in '46.
I live in sunny southern california. Even if I were to remove the
commo shelter from the truck (M882), I still could not get the truck
in the garage because the cab is higher than the door! Yes, the truck
sits out in the weather. It gets rained on. It gets pooped on (bird
type). I clean it with a garden hose and soft brush. I fix the rust
(when I find it), it gets regular maintenance.

But to suggest that I can't be a member of the MVPA because of this,
is a little extreme. No, I don't collect MV's. This one gets used.
Someone out there correct me if I am wrong, but I feel that the MVPA
stands for more than just preserving MV's. There is the comraderie of
people sharing an earnest interest in a hobby (to some maybe an
avocation); there is the willingness to help someone who is in need,
be it technical or otherwise; there is the intense interest in the
history of the military and military vehicles; and the round the world
location of parts when they are needed.

Did we not just go around with something like this with the
M151/HMMWV? Let's not expand this anymore.

Rob, I've read your postings over the last year, and you're usually
right on the money. But, I think this is a little extreme. I propose
maybe having a collector's segment to the membership for those that
want to be true blue collectors/restorers and then these suggestions
could be applied to this. There could also be a general class for
others that may own MV's but don't collect or restore. I've done a
little restoration on mine, but only where something was broken or
missing, and not so much to bring it back to issue condition.

Just my $.02 worth.


Jared Lang
SCMVCC, Burbank, CA. USA

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Subject: [MV] Military Vehicle Preservation
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Date: 6/18/97 1:31 PM

<<1) Keep the Military Vehicle as stock as possible and try to restore it
to original condition if at all possible. We are mere custodians of these
vehicles, we owe it to future generations to preserve them intact.

2) If a vehicle has already been modified way beyond the point of an
accurate restoration, don't screw it up any more. There are restorers out
there that may need the one part you have to complete their vehicle.

3) If a vehicle has been modified, try to keep the outward appearence as
original as possible. If you want to change things, keep the cutting
torch out of the picture and figure out a way to build brackets, etc. so
someone at a later date can restore the vehicle to original....>>
I copied the paragrahps above from the M37/M715 thread because I think it has
changed into a military vehicle preservation type subject, which bears
further discussion.

I also personally feel that "We are mere custodians of these
vehicles, we owe it to future generations to preserve them intact." Towards
that end, I suggest that the MVPA should adopt a platform dedicated to the
preservation of all military vehicles. Their stated policy should include
the above items plus, I would add:

4) No military vehicles should be torched or scrapped, or modified beyond
military-approved modifications.
5) No parts should be thrown away.
5) Military vehicles should be protected from the weather. They should be
garaged or stored in an area where it doesn't rain like in the South-West.

Obviously, people that own the vehicles have the right to do whatever they
please with their vehicles (including modifying, torching, and or scrapping
them). I have no problem with that. What I would suggest is that the MVPA
officially discourage these practices and offer to purchase the vehicles from
individuals. The vehciles that the MVPA buys could then be resold through a
GSA/DRMO-type auction to MVPA members, with a stipulation that the vehicles
must never be torched or scrapped, no parts will ever be thrown away, and the
vehicles must be garaged. Anyone that violated the MVPA preservation rules
would lose their MVPA membership and not be allowed to participate in future
MVPA auctions. The profits from these auctions could be used to save and
restore more vehicles for auction.

I am all for people doing whatever they want to their military vehicles.
(Including repowering, torching, or scrapping, etc.) People have the right
to do whatever they want with their own private property and I support that
concept 100 percent.

However, as far as the MVPA is concerned, I believe that they should adopt
the items listed above as an official platform(if they haven't already) in
order to preserve the MV's that we take for granted for future generations.
I'm sure I'll get a lot of heat for this one. Let me know what y'alls
thoughts are.

Rob Kiser
'52 M37

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