Re: [MV] Licensing mil vehicles without title or Form 97

From: JJ&A (w7ls@blarg.net)
Date: Mon Apr 09 2001 - 12:34:12 PDT


Forgot to mention that you also need to drive it to a State Patrol inspection
station and have them crawl around underneath it and verify VIN numbers. Jim

JJ&A wrote:

> Well, in Washington State, there is another way. You can register a vehicle
> without either. You say you lost the title or never got it. After 3 years, if
> nobody steps forward to claim that vehicle, you can get a new title for it, in
> your name. A friend of mine has done this many times. It's quite legal. The
> State probably will run a check to see if it is reported stolen, but that
> shouldn't cause a worry, so long as you know the history of the vehicle. Jim
>
> "Henry J. Fackovec" wrote:
>
> > Yeah You can complain about the RMV, but at least they let you register
> > *YOUR* truck, I have no form 97, and no title, so I am out of luck for the
> > moment <G>. But at least my truck runs and stops <G>.
> >
> > Too much work, not enough time for truck fun..
> > Hank
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron" <rojoha@mediaone.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:53 PM
> > Subject: [MV] Where there's a will...
> >
> > > Today, after over 2 hours at the ***** Registry of Motor Vehicles, I
> > have
> > > a legally registered M35A2. Ok, it's registered as an Antique, 32 year
> > old,
> > > 14 passenger, 2 door, 23,000 lb GVWR passenger car, but I showed them
> > > pictures and the TM 43 Tacom Data sheets, and that's the only category
> > > they could get it to fit into.
> > > We also had a go around with a Trooper who was "POSITIVE" I could only
> > > drive my "car" on Sundays, regardless of what the Application for Antique
> > > Motor Vehicle Plates said ( Saturday, Sundays, Holidays, Exhibitions,
> > Club
> > > Activities, Parades,to and from repair shops and other 'Functions of
> > Public
> > > Interest' ). I asked how I was to get it inspected since there are no
> > > inspection stations open on Sundays? He said I'd have to find one and do
> > it
> > > by next Sunday(?????). I remembered what our esteemed law enforcement
> > types
> > > on the list said and stood with hat in hand, ear to ear grin, punctuated
> > > with an occasional perplexed, vacant hang dog look at my shuffling feet
> > when
> > > they said "No". It's gonna take months to get rid of the furrows on my
> > brow.
> > > (Maybe I could smear Bondo on my forehead!)
> > > The VIN wouldn't fit in their computer, so they started from the right
> > > and counted their spaces versus my Vin and chopped accordingly. The Branch
> > > Manager had a family member who bought a vehicle from DRMO a couple of
> > years
> > > back, so Form 97 in someone else's name other than mine, with a date of
> > > issue 1 month LATER than the out of state notarized bill of sale only
> > caused
> > > shaking heads. We also have a state law that you have to pay the sales
> > tax
> > > within 10 days of purchase regardless of if you register or not or face a
> > > $500.00 fine plus a surcharge. She decided that since the Form 97 was
> > issued
> > > last week, the gentleman who sold it to me didn't own it when he sold it
> > > even on the day he took my money and paid DRMS and then gave me a bill of
> > > sale meant I was OK.
> > > Manufacturer could only be Kaiser or Jeep, but not both. After 2
> > calls
> > > to HQ to 2 different departments, Manager said it was because the US
> > Govt.
> > > doesn't have a clue about what they are doing and to process the paperwork
> > > and let the "Title Dept." figure it out.
> > > When asked about people riding in back on the "Troop" seats we got
> > > opinions from 2 Troopers and 3 depts. at HQ again that 1) Must have
> > > seatbelts, 2) don't need seatbelts, 3) Adults don't need seatbelts, but
> > kids
> > > do, 3a)neither do kids, 4) it didn't have seatbelts when manufactured, so
> > > don't need them now, 5) it's an antique so people can't be carried in
> > back
> > > EVER, 6) It's an antique so current regs don't apply to passenger carrying
> > > in a non-commercial instance 7) ok to have people in back in parades
> > only,
> > > 8) ok to have people in back on any day that plate is valid for operation
> > > regardless of age or seatbelts being present, 9) side facing seats aren't
> > > covered by seatbelts, 10) up to officer at time of stop. They then handed
> > me
> > > my plates and drool covered forms and I exited, stage right.
> > > All I can say is that Oklahoma City would never have happened if
> > McVeigh
> > > had lived in my state and tried to register a car. They would have shot
> > him
> > > at the counter when he went ballistic at the old "SALES TAX" window, never
> > > mind the applications window. See, back a few years ago, they would
> > process
> > > how much you owed for sales tax and you would pay it first, then go to
> > > another line and get your paper work rejected after a 2 hour wait because
> > > you mixed upper and lower case letters or used a blue pen in the black pen
> > > only area or...., Well you get the picture. That's why the gun laws in
> > this
> > > state are aimed at law abiding citizens. CRIMINALS DON'T REGISTER THEIR
> > > CARS, They steal ones that are already registered!!!!!
> > >
> > > A punch drunk but happy( not gleeful yet) M35A2 owner
> > >
> > >
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