Re: [MV] Beltring?

From: Nigel Hay (Nigel@milweb.net)
Date: Mon Nov 05 2001 - 12:32:24 PST


Hi folks,
Before this all gets blown out of proportion and the "careless talk costs
wives...." syndrome kicks in, there is NO doubt that War and Peace 2002 is
very much still on - there has been an important meeting between IMPS and
War and Peace this morning to resolve some issues raised by the IMPS
committee - these issues have been resolved and a letter is going out to all
IMPS members to keep them informed and to reassure them that the event is
definately on.
As I retired from my involvement in the show at the end of the 2001 event, I
think it would be more appropriate for people to contact Rex direct
rex@warandpeace.uk.com with their own questions - one thing is for sure
there is no bad news!

Kind regards, NIGE

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Notton" <Richard@fv623.demon.co.uk>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Beltring?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Woodburn" <twoodburn@earthlink.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:21 PM
> Subject: [MV] Beltring?
>
>
> > I've heard rumbings of problems with the War and Peace show.
> > Anybody know anything?
> > I'm about ready to make reservation to go.
> >
> There is a serious falling out it seems between the organisers and IMPS, I
> will post the letter in the files of MVList@yahoogroups.com as I cannot do
> it here.
>
> My personal observations, which could be erroneous, are, allegedly:
> Beltring is run by a limited company as a money making business.
> It was taken/given from IMPS having outstretched them.
> IMPS probably get a substantial donation in consideration.
> The directors of W&P limited, who own the rights, name and showground
itself
> probably want to detach from the IMPS in all respects.
> We have noted and complained about the increasing costs and the reducing
> (always were little above zero) facilities.
> Every exhibitor pays to make the show for W&P Ltd by entrance fees and
> support car fees.
> There current owners are persons of substantial means and business people,
> you don't necessarily get here by being philanthropic.
> IMPS can likely take it or leave it, they are out-gunned by W&P Ltd.
>
> The accounts of W&P Ltd are published as required by English law, perhaps
> someone would like to spend the 50 quid at the local library and get the
> accounts in full or have a word with Dunn & Bradstreet. Knowing that
> accounts are depressed as far as possible to reduce taxation but get by
> officialdom, I think money-spinner will still be apt.
>
> I am meeting more and more people now who will not attend Beltring, _they_
> give the reasons variously as:
> Rip-off.
> Too big and faceless
> An accident waiting to happen.
>
> You can always ask via the contact info at:
> http://www.warandpeace.uk.com/index2.html
>
> Richard
> Southampton - England
>
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