Re: [MV] Deuce Wiring Puzzlement

From: kuhrick (kuhrick@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jan 08 2003 - 01:28:37 PST


the voltage regulator on fire wall boxfirewall or some'ing like that
says 14 volt 100 amp
so its been converted to 12 volt
{and you cant trust battery cable colors at all
if back yard save money using used parts type has worked on it}
the nag.. cables should go to ground same ware motor or fame or both
pos. most of the time go to starter and a smaller wire feeds the rest of
the truck
with that pump motor back there a bigger cable would need to feed its starter
and it mite or mite not have a anltnater/generator on it
good luck
ken m886

At 07:55 PM 1/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
>I picked up my 6TL's today ( then referenced the TM's: my 1953 M35 takes
>TWO batteries only. color me surprised ) The battery cables were
>disconnected when I got the truck, however I believe the electrical system
>as with most of the truck has been altered from what it looked like as an
>M35. Instead of a positive and negative cable with one bridging cable
>between the batteries the truck has four cables coming into the battery
>area. The cables are of different gauge wire with different
>connectors. Two wires are solid red, one other has a red area near the clamp.
>The two reddest wires go directly to ground on the housing at the front of
>the transmission. The other two get lost in the wires added when they
>converted the truck: I plan on having a friend come over and help me
>wiggle wires and map what goes where soon. As deuces are negatively
>grounded ( they are, aren't they? I couldn't find reference to this in TM
>9-8022 or 9-819 ) I guess that these two cables should go to the negative
>posts on the batteries. That left the other two cables to go to the
>Positive posts.
>I am unsure how to start the #@$^$#@#$ truck. The foot starter is
>mentioned in TM 9-819, however there is also a push in button on the dash
>labeled 'Start'. And two separate pull knobs on different areas of the
>dash named 'ignition'. There is also a 3" toggle switch near the glove
>box labeled ' Master Switch '.
>I connected the batteries as mentioned above, checking to see if there was
>a spark when the negative clamps got near the battery posts.. no spark,
>thus no open circuits.
>I was unable to get power to the truck. Unable to get any lights to come
>on, unable to get the engine to turn over. I know there was power because
>there are a pair of ' Frankenstein ' switches on the floor above the drive
>train tunnel. When I moved either of these switches to connect a large
>spark occurred and the pump engine behind the cab started to turn
>over. But nothing else would come on.
>
>My question ( finally <g> )
>
>Any idea how I can be sure I am connecting the battery cables correctly?
>
>I doubt they rewired the entire truck, but they DID sidestep a number of
>systems ( like the fuel pump: they bypassed the mechanical pump on the
>engine in favor of an electrical one they bolted onto the frame ).. and
>the batteries have four wires... I wonder if the vehicle might be 12 volt
>now instead of 24? The Pump Engine did move, but if I had wired the
>electrical system in reverse wouldn't it still move when I applied
>power? ( probably causing damage? ) I pulled the left/front signal
>bulb.. no voltage stamped on it but the model was 1141... Then pulled a
>headlight: no voltage, and the back of it is a solid glossy black (?) but
>no real part numbers front or rear....I was hoping to confirm a 24 volt
>negatively grounded system but...
>
>Photos are available at
>
>http://www.paulathomas.com/images/
>
>The ones starting with 'battery' show the battery box area and the starter
>wiring. I have hundreds of other pics, but as the web site itself shows I
>haven't gotten around to doing much with anything there. However if a
>photo of something in particular might help answer these questions please
>let me know: I'll upload it.
>
>PLEASE let me know if you can't see the photo's within your browser: The
>strangest things seem to keep photo's from being viewed in web sites or
>just as files as I am pointing toward them here... I am learning as I go:
>any feedback would be appreciated.
>
>
>Thanks for any thoughts which might keep me from blowing my baby up.
>
>
> Paul
> MVPA# 24986
> '53 REO M35 Fire Conversion
> '53 AEC Chevy 3/4 Ton
>
>
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