Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?

From: Patrick Jankowiak (eccm@swbell.net)
Date: Thu Apr 03 2003 - 19:06:58 PST


I attest that I did get the beast up to 65 ONCE (I have been chastized
about wrecking the engine and will never do it again), whereas before
the hubs it would only do about 57. Note that my M35 has had an S-280
sized shelter on it since I got it. A big wind resistance issue if
there ever was one.

I was chastized for running the engine at this speed, if only for a
minute or so. Joe Young says don't do it, so I'll take that as good
advice.

As to the 'governor' bolt on the floor, I found that on mine, the
operating lever on the pump stops traveling before I get to the bolt.
A spring then takes up the extra movement of the gas pedal.

m35products wrote:
>
> I recommend that you talk to any of my satisfied lock-out hub customers. Ask
> them how much more acceleration, and perceived power increase is noticeable.
> Far be it from me to recommend them myself. I'm much too modest. apb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Horrocks, Aaron" <ACHb@pge.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
>
> > In the highest gear the engine only has enough power to peak out at 55-ish
> on level ground. (Have you removed the governor yet? That big bolt under the
> pedal that restricts you from flooring it? That will help!) In Deuces, the
> slightest grade and you need to downshift. Making the gears taller will give
> you a higher theoretical top speed, but the engine's not going to be able to
> push that much truck around in those gears, and it's going to strain all of
> the time.
> >
> > So, after you change the gears you'll need to do some serious engine mods,
> or get another engine. I recommend keeping the current gears and converting
> to gasoline and getting an EFI 472" Stroker HEMI from
> http://www.moparengineswest.com/ - The biggest question is do you want less
> than 800HP, or more than 800HP? That should increase your top speed to just
> about 160Mph or more. VROOM! That would be one heck of a sight to see! It
> opens up all sorts of MV drag racing potential!
> >
> >
> > Aaron Horrocks
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Ehle [mailto:markehle@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:12 AM
> > To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> >
> >
> > Guys -
> >
> > I can't speak for all M35's, but mine would go faster on level road with
> an
> > overdrive gear. Like I said, I don't want to set the land speed record,
> just
> > 5-10 more mph without winding up the engine.
> >
> > Folks, the question was not why would I want to, or would I be guilty of
> > screwing up a rare truck, or I could kill myself driving it, but simply
> > could a person open the transfer case, re-arrange the existing gears on
> the
> > shafts, and come up with 1:1 and overdrive.
> >
> > Just an idea. Nothing more.
> >
> > Thanks -
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "ygmir" <ygmir@onemain.com>
> > >To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
> > >Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> > >Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:05:01 -0800
> > >
> > >Seems like the one thing most overlook in the overdrive idea is the lack
> of
> > >horsepower to pull those high gears.
> > >I notice with my M35A2 that there is just enough power to pull slight
> > >inclines at speed in high gear. I can't think it would have the power to
> > >pull higher gears. And, maybe it's just where I live, but I don't spend
> > >much
> > >time on level ground.......
> > >Just some thoughts.
> > >Henry
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
> > >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:03 AM
> > >Subject: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello, all -
> > > >
> > > > I know that many of you die-hard deuce fans get ticked off at people
> > > > re-running old threads, but I had an idea that I need to have shot
> down.
> > > >
> > > > I hardly ever use low on my transfer case. I did play with the 5th
> gear
> > >low
> > > > to 4th gear high thing and it was cool, but cumbersome. I do spend
> time
> > >on
> > > > the highway with it and am tired of 55. I don't need super-low, and I
> > >don't
> > > > need 70+. All I want is 60-65.
> > > >
> > > > I have never torn into an M35 transfer case, but I am wondering if it
> > >would
> > > > be physically possible to swap gears around so that instead of a 1:1
> and
> > >1:2
> > > > ratio, you could get 1:1 and 2:1 overdrive.
> > > >
> > > > Stupid idea?
> > > >
> > > > Later -
> > > >
> > > > Mark Ehle
> > > > 1970 AMG M35A2
> > > >
> > > >
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