From: Stephen & Jeanne Keith (cckw@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Dec 13 2003 - 07:31:15 PST
Remember to use the term: HISTORIC Military Vehicles.....
Put those opposed into the same category as (history) book burners!
Steve AKA Dr Deuce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Gatton" <jdgatton@yahoo.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Is this the land of the free??
> Bill,
>
> I'll contribute to "The Fund", if needed.
>
> I second Fred's suggestion to drop the rear axle and
> start roaming the streets!
>
> It definately sounds like there is some nepitism going
> on in your fine city council. There may be some legal
> ground there for you too.
>
> It's kind of funny when they said they couldn't add in
> a clause for Historic Vehicles, because it would be
> for one person. Well, it seems to me this new
> ordinance is directed at one person. That is, unless
> there has been a rash of big trucks, 18-wheelers and
> such roaming and parking on the streets of your quaint
> little town causing all sorts of hate and discontent.
>
> Jeff Gatton
>
>
>
> --- william f cox <grntrks@juno.com> wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> > If you wind up hiring a lawyer, post an email. I' m
> > not rich but, I'll
> > gladly and proudly send $20.00 to the "Prestin Legal
> > Defense Fund" just
> > to know I had a small part of puttig a few elitist
> > despots in their
> > place.
> > Nuff said,
> >
> > Frank Cox (grntrks@juno.com)
> > Vietnam 1966
> > '45 GMC 353 DUKW
> > '66 M35A2 w/w
> > '68 M105A1
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:20:04 -0500 "Bill & Bonnie
> > Prestin"
> > <bprestin@chartermi.net> writes:
> > > I live on Main street, in a small town
> > (Village) just off I75
> > > in
> > > Michigan. My lot size is 75 ft. wide by 160 ft
> > deep. I own a 2 1/2
> > > ton 1952
> > > Studebaker(M342) and a 5 ton 1953 Diamont T(M51)
> > >
> > > I built a very large garage to house my
> > trucks. In fact it
> > > approached
> > > the maximum height allowed for "accessory
> > structures" in our town
> > > which was
> > > 25 ft tall. My garage is 24 ft. eight inches tall.
> > > I also maxed out the square feet of coverage
> > rule on my lot
> > > which
> > > allows for 25% coverage. I have 24.98% coverage.
> > My garage is 34
> > > ft. wide
> > > by 46 ft long.
> > > My neighbor is one of the 5 council members
> > in our town. Her
> > > brother,
> > > who also lives on main street, is another of the
> > five council
> > > members. My
> > > neighbor was not happy at all about the size of my
> > garage. So they
> > > made an
> > > amendment to the allowed height of accessory
> > structures. The new
> > > maximum
> > > height allowed is 17 ft. six inches tall. luckily
> > my garage was
> > > already
> > > done.
> > >
> > > I recently saw in the paper (you have to read
> > the fine print)
> > > that there
> > > was a proposed ordinance to restrict all vehicles
> > with more than two
> > > axles
> > > from driving on any street in town (excepting main
> > street) lucky me,
> > > I live
> > > on main street. But the ordinance also restricts
> > vehicles with more
> > > than two
> > > axles from parking on all streets in town
> > including main street.
> > > Now, my trucks are stored in my garage at all
> > times. In fact I
> > > only get
> > > one of them out, about 10-12 times a year. They
> > are also licensed
> > > and
> > > insured as "historic" vehicles.
> > > Now occasionally, when family comes up to
> > visit, I will get
> > > one out
> > > and give the kids rides around the block, stopping
> > in the parallel
> > > parking
> > > in front of my house to let the kids swap out &
> > take turns. I also
> > > use my
> > > trucks in the local 4th of July parade. This new
> > ordinance would
> > > prevent me
> > > from doing both of these things.
> > > So I thought I would go to the meeting and
> > talk to them about
> > > it. To say
> > > anything at our towns council meetings you have to
> > get on the
> > > agenda. So I
> > > filled out the form the required week ahead of
> > time. At the meeting,
> > > I ask
> > > If they could make an exclusion to the ordinance
> > for licensed
> > > "historic
> > > vehicles". They said "we can't make an exclusion
> > for just one
> > > person." I
> > > said " No I don't mean just me, it would be anyone
> > with a historic
> > > vehicle
> > > with more than two axles." They said "that could
> > be thousand of
> > > vehicles"
> > > "Doing that would defeat the purpose of the
> > ordinance"
> > > Then they told me that they don't think I
> > should be allowed
> > > to keep
> > > trucks of that size on residential property in the
> > village, and they
> > > were
> > > going to approach the zoning board to ask If they
> > could make me
> > > remove them.
> > > I am not really sure what action I should
> > take? Should I
> > > wait until
> > > I get a letter saying I have to get rid of my
> > trucks? Or is there
> > > something
> > > I could do pro-actively. It makes me wonder what
> > is becoming of "The
> > > land of
> > > the free"
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > Frank Cox (grntrks@juno.com)
> > Vietnam 1966
> > '45 GMC 353 DUKW
> > '66 M35A2 w/w
> > '68 M105A1
> >
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