From: Wayne Harris (papercu@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Feb 01 2005 - 21:00:40 PST
Sorry Glenn Everybody seems to think that is a rule IT IS NOT, paypal said
you HAVE to ship to the address on the transaction page whether it is
confirmed or not. But even then what I (and maybe the rest)am complaining
about is just the way Frank said it, not about the so-called rule. Below is
from Paypay Help Center. Wayne
Can I ship to both Confirmed and Unconfirmed Addresses under the Seller
Protection Policy?
If the transaction is eligible, simply ship to the buyer's address displayed
on the Transaction Details page (whether it is Confirmed or
Unconfirmed).Yes, if the transaction is covered by the Seller Protection
Policy, it will be designated as "eligible" on the Transaction Details page.
More...
>From: "Glenn Shaw" <mpmutt@mtaofnj.us>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Subject: Re: [MV] Ebay seller * FRANKS SURPLUS **
>Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:42:52 -0500
>
>Hi All
>For those that are not premier business members of Paypal, this is the
>reason for the shipping problems. And for the record I will only ship to a
>nonconfirmed address if I receive payment by check, cashiers check or money
>order same as Frank. The payment MUST be in a non revokable form and
>cleared. The reason is simple and you are going to see it more and more
>now. Paypal is not a bank, they are a money transfer service and make
>their
>own rules. One thing they recently put into effect was a mandatory program
>called the Seller Protection Plan. What this is is two pronged. First
>anyone who decides to buy something with Paypal and follows their rules can
>just decide that there was something not right with the deal and demand a
>chargeback from Paypal. Selling something posted as "as is" does not matter
>to Paypal. A lot of sellers are being burned by this and it is being
>greatly abused by dishonest buyers. Paypal will automatically now grant
>the chargeback and/or freeze the funds. The second part of this is the
>seller only has a right to dispute the chargeback if they follow Paypal
>rules or as Frank puts it "Paypal Law". One of the rules is the sale had
>to
>be to a person who is confirmed and the shipment had to be sent to a
>confirmed address. Otherwise the seller automatically loses his right to
>dispute the chargeback. I have been burned and many other sellers have
>also
>including Frank. So now it has to go to a confirmed address if you use
>Paypal. If you don't like it, get a the address confirmed. Simple as that.
>Don't blame Frank. This is also the reason that you see BidPay appearing
>more and more as sellers become fed up with Paypal and their crap. I hope
>this explanation helps those that are trying to figure this all out.
>
>Regards
>Glenn
>MVPA
>MTA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 52m37@charter.net [mailto:52m37@charter.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:22 PM
>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [MV] Ebay seller * FRANKS SURPLUS **
>
>
>Cabell:
> I have had a few dealings with Frank. All good. At one point I bought an
>interior light fixture from him. Had red and white lenses. When I got it
>one
>of the light sockets was bad so I wanted to return it. He said no just keep
>it and sent me a second one ant no charge and he covered shipping.
>
>I know that some companies will only ship to the address associated with
>your credit card, maybe its the same deal with PayPal? Hal
>
> > From: cgarbee@ipass.net
> > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:28:31 -0500
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Subject: Re: [MV] Ebay seller * FRANKS SURPLUS **
> >
> > My only complaint with this dealer is that he will not ship to an
>"unverified"
> > address... My home address is Paypal "verified" but the office
>address
> > where
> > I like to have items shipped (always have somebody on hand to sign,
> > don't have to worry about somebody taking things off the porch, or the
>rain getting on
> > boxes...)is not verified. No one else has a problem shipping to my
>office
> > when I use Paypal, so Frank doesn't get any of my money...
> >
> > I've got a long list of dealers that I send folks to, a medium length
> > list of folks that I go to but keep my eyes wide open and hold my
>breath,
>and an
> > extremely short list of folks I avoid. I can't say that this ratio
>holds
>for
> > any other "hobby" that I have been involved with...
> >
> > I always appreciate hearing what other folks have to say about
> > dealings they have had, good and bad.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > CGarbee
> > www.garbee.net/~cabell
> >
> > Quoting Pasquale Lombardi <pasquale.nj@verizon.net>:
> >
> >> Gentlemen:
> >> I have known Frank of Franks Surplus and his wife for about 25 years.
> >> I would recommend them as a Fair and Honest person. The same for
> >> Mullens, Rapco, Riv-Rad and Ross. Pasquale Lombardi
> >> MVPA#151-C
> >
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