From: Mil-Veh Co. (milveh@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat Apr 16 2005 - 19:09:26 PDT
Unfortunately that is exactly how it is and some
states are worse, Calif. being among the worst ever.
Several years ago I backed a state ballot initiative
(Prop 208-CA, campaign finance reform) that was also
backed by a lot of groups including Common Cause and a
former Secretary of State.
It was the most popular initiative on the ballot and
carried 78% of the CA vote! That part was pretty
incredible.
This new law actually took most of the corrupt money
out of the system, least until new loop holes could be
discovered. It had great promise only it was short
lived. Died of an unnatural death you might say,
within just two months of passing.
It was literally sued to death by both Dems and Reps
despite the large majority of CA voters who supported
it. Neither party cared that the people wanted it.
They wanted the money system back in play! In this
case both parties used the court system to subvert the
will of the people...once again, because it threatened
their power base...money. Kinda sucks, huh?
If you ever wonder why we have so many special
interest laws, just follow the money trail....
--- Jim Breneman <jimbre_7@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wow... I was mostly joking with that last comment.
> But
> that is some very interesting/disturbing/helpful
> information about how gov't contracts "really" work.
> I
> always wondered how these "dealers" were able to
> aquire MVs that nobody else seems to have. And have
> lots full of M923 5-tons and M998 HMMWVs
> (ie...www.army4x4.com). I guess now I know. Don't
> get
> me wrong... Im not accusing ANYBODY of wrongdoing.
> They're just operating within precedent set by some
> politicians.
>
>
>
> --- "Mil-Veh Co." <milveh@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > --- Jim Breneman <jimbre_7@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Also, has anyone ever done business with
> > www.UH-1.com?
> > They seem to have a lot of surplus aircraft. Which
> > senators do you have to pay-off to get that kind
> of
> > inventory?
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > It's been my lengthy polical experience that if
> you
> > wish a "favor" such a military contract to buy
> > surplus
> > helicopters or helpful legislation for same, you
> > should plan on spending a fair amount in
> > "contributions."
> >
> > NEVER WALK INTO A SENATORS OFFICE WITH A BAG OF
> > CASH....THAT WENT OUT WITH ABSCAM, it's just not
> > done
> > anymore, there are better ways.
> >
> > The rules are quite specific, the more you
> > contribute
> > to a campaign fund the better your odds at getting
> > "eartime", which is another way of saying your
> > request
> > is being processed. Now, don't be cheap, 10k
> > minimum
> > for small favors and it goes up from there, I
> think
> > the current limit is 20k. But, don't let that
> scare
> > you, it's not a bribe it's a donation. Heck, this
> > is
> > done all the time and you don't see anybody
> getting
> > busted do you?
> >
> > Tip: There ought to be a decent lag time between
> > contribution and your appointment with the Senator
> > or
> > Senators, so plan well ahead, 6-9 months is about
> > right.
> >
> > If the Senator can't accept your money because it
> is
> > over the amount the FEC allows, you or your helper
> > may
> > be directed to a person who runs what is known as
> > 501
> > 3(c) Political Action Committee or PAC for short,
> > where money in excess of contribution limits can
> be
> > accepted...this is called "soft money"
> contributions
> > and it works great!
> >
> > The PAC can handle whatever amount you have in
> mind
> > without the Senator in question being directly
> > linked.
> > lol Pretty great system so far, huh? It gets
> > better,
> > the PAC's operate under the guise of being
> > independant
> > (aka a wink and a nod system).
> >
> > So, they promote the interests of said senator
> > without
> > his direct knowlege...lol but, you can bet your
> > money
> > will be appreciated by the Senator in ways that
> will
> > more than justify your donation.
> >
> > I know that a lousy hundred grand donation here in
> > California from the milk lobby netted tens of
> > millions
> > for higher milk prices through legislative help!
> I
> > could give you hundreds of examples, but just know
> > money really talks, especially in my state.
> >
> > FYI, your large contribution will never "directly
> > buy"
> > in technical legal terms the legislation or
> contract
> > you need, right? lol Now that would be illegal.
> > You
> > can also do jet plane/limo rentals, 1st class
> > airline
> > tickets for junkets, front row
> > baseball/football/etc.
> > tickets, 5 star lodging and gourmet meals.
> >
> > We have the best politicians money can buy! So
> you
> > can buy with confidence.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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