Re: [MV] Aervoe Paint - Keeping fingers crossed....

From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Tue May 31 2005 - 08:57:15 PDT


I'm surprised that anyone has had success using lacquer thinner with
enamel paint - I'm pretty sure that Gilespie and Aervoe are both
synthetic enamels. Lacquer thinner is way too "hot" IMO for use with
enamels. I believe that lacquer thinner could serously mess up an
enamel paints chemisty.

In fact lacquer thinner put on a dried enamel will generally remove the
enamel eventually. You cannot apply lacquer paint over enamel paint
since it will cause the enamel to lift and really make a mess of the
paint job. I would suggest using plan old "paint thinner" available
from the hardware store to thin enamel paint. I use it all of the time
to thin tractor enamel - aka Tractor Supply paint (also synthetic
enamel) and to that I add hardener. Makes for a fade resistant finish
that has lasted years in full outside exposure.

Even Naptha I believe is too hot - as seen by Mike Maynard. When the
overspray dries before it hits the surface, that means there is not
enough wet time on the paint. And you will get striping and all kinds
of other undesireable things including a general lack of adhesion. The
paint is basically drying as it hits the surface to which it is suppose
to stick to - not a good situation. It really needs to be wet and flow
somewhat before setting up - and drying.

FWIW,

Dave

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chance wolf wrote:
> Just a general note on the 'pink' thing: I bought a couple of gallons of
> the Aervoe version of the 24087 (987A, I think) to paint the M715 at work
> because I thought that while Gillespie's paint is uniformly wonderful on
> everything I've done, I think the colour of their 24087 is off a fair bit.
> Anyway, while stirring up the Aervoe right in the can, I couldn't help but
> notice pink 'tails' around the stir-stick as I stirred, and immediately
> recalled the conversations I've read here over the years with regard to
> Aervoe's 'pink' rep.
>
> That said, I have an M220 shop van that was painted (badly) about 4 yrs ago
> with Aervoe's 24087 variant and a couple of other vehicles as well. They've
> sat out in the sunlight and weather ever since and to my eyes don't exhibit
> any 'pinkness' whatsoever. The M715 also sits outside (but under a carport)
> and has for six months, and it's still every bit as OD and semi-gloss as the
> day it was painted.
>
> I don't know whether the thinner makes a difference or not (as has been
> suggested), but *most* of the time I'm using Medium Enamel Reducer from the
> auto paint place unless I need something quickly and handily, in which case
> it tends to be Lacquer Thinner. I'm just about certain all the 24087
> vehicles at work were done with Enamel Reducer though.
>
> (I've had other problems with Lacquer Thinner so I tend only to use it as a
> last resort now. The other paint outfit in town also supplies what's
> labelled "Aromatic Thinner" when I use their mix-to-order Industrial Enamel
> paints. Pretty sure it's just Xylene, but I'll have to have a look next
> time.)
>
>
>
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