RE: Chinese spammer harvesting email addresses from this list

From: Hutterer, John (MPAU) (john.hutterer@smiths-medical.com)
Date: Thu Dec 15 2005 - 08:39:27 PST


FWIW,

The latest issue of Design News (www.designnews.com), an Engineering
magazine published in the US, devotes several pages to an article
comparing the number of people going into the Engineering trades
(Mechanical, Electrical, Aerospace, etc.) in the US and China. It is
estimated that the US will graduate about 75,000 Engineers this year,
although the number is declining year by year. There doesn't seem to be
the prestige in becoming an Engineer that there used to be. 75,000
Engineers sounds like a lot. The US should be able to maintain our lead
in the technology fields...right? Well, China plans to graduate a total
of 1,000,000 (that's ONE MILLION!) Engineers this year, and the numbers
are increasing. Oh, and these are not "Cracker Jack box degrees" either.
They are very talented Engineers. The feeling is that China is getting
tired of acting as the worlds low wage labor pool, and has plans to be
THE design and manufacturing powerhouse starting in the very near

future. Every member of the ruling Central Committee of the PRC (the 12
most powerful men in the nation) are Engineers. By the way, of the

75,000 Engineers that the US does graduate this year, 51% will be from
foreign countries. However, that number is declining too. The simple
fact is that India, Pakistan, South Korea, and other nations that used
to send students to the US for schooling now have very high caliber
Engineering schools of their own. If China decides to put 100,000
Engineers to work on a project to develop a car that gets, say, 75 miles
per gallon, how long do you think the rest of the world will continue to
buy US vehicles that get 25 or 30 miles per gallon? What if China
decides to develop the equivalent of Microsoft, and starts installing it
on the $50.00 full function computers that they design? How long will
the US continue to be the leader in software technology? The article
provides a rather interesting look at what the future may be.

John H

-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf Of santoken@bright.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:55 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Chinese spammer harvesting email addresses from this
list

Rob, All,

This is where we should be careful, the Chinese steels are
excellent...they lack the knowledge required to work them...big
difference.

Kent

>
> From: 69barracuda@mchsi.com
> Date: Wed Dec 14, 9:08 PM
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Subject: Re: [MV] Chinese spammer harvesting email addresses from this

> list
>
> Yeah...their tools are crap too. They want to start selling cars here,

> bet they'll never pass crash tests unless lots of pockets get lined.
>
> Mil-Veh content...I wonder if their MBT's and front line aircraft are
> built with the same substandard metals and construction as the junk
they export...
>
> Rob
>
> --
> '68 Plymouth Barracuda Fastback
> '69 Plymouth Barracuda Fastback
> '69 Dart 270 4dr
> '05 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
> '03 GMC Savanah 3500
> '47 Farmall "H"
> '67-'69 Barracuda Owners Group
> MVPA #17365
> Ridgecrest Ca.
> Ebay ID "m50a1ontos"
>
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>
>
> > A note of caution here, folks. If you buy parts from the Peoples
> > Republic of China
> > (PRC) the metallurgy may well be of poor quality.
> >
> > The aerospace company I retired from was basically forced by the
U.S.
> > Government
> > to buy major aircraft structural parts from the PRC. Upon visual
> > inspection, they all looked good. However, tests of primer, paint,
> > fasteners and metallurgy revealed the parts to be unacceptable.
> > They were determined to pose a danger of in-flight failure, allowing

> > the aircraft fuselage to come apart in flight!
> >
> > Just my two pennies' worth.
> >
> > Dick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "J. Forster" <jfor@quik.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: 14 December, 2005 17:45
> > Subject: [MV] Chinese spammer harvesting email addresses from this
> > list
> >
> >
> > I just got this. There are obviously spammers harvesting email
> > addresses from this list:
> >
> > **********
> >
> > "Dear Sir,
> >
> > I am James Shen from a diesel fuel injection parts Plant, hope we
> > can help you in the line of military use diesel fuel engine parts.
> >
> > With more than 20 years experience in this field, our factory is
> > producing the parts: HD90101A and HD8821.They are used in the engine

> > system of M35A2 and M60 tank. Their most competitive price (almost
> > one tenth of the product which made in USA) and the same quality
will meet your need fairly.
> >
> > We are one of ADS members. Our products have a good reputation with
> > sound quality and competitive price in European market, South
> > American market and other countries.
> >
> > If you feel interested in our products, please let us know any time.

> > We are always within your touch.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
> >
> > James Shen
> > private mail: jamespump@hotmail.com"
> >
> > *********************
> >
> > If you don't like having your email address harvested, perhaps you
> > might want to drop him a note to his 'private' email address.
> >
> > -Jon
> >
> >
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